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Date: Tue Feb  4 07:26:11 2003
Name: barry 
Email: barry.mayle@btinternet.com
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
hi nik
iam i mechanic and live in southwest (plymouth)would like to get in touch with you as i ride a cbx 550 f2 as well
would like to help you with your bike or buy it
barry rep barry.mayle@btinternet.com


Date: Tue Feb  4 07:17:40 2003
Name: 
Email: Basmaf
Starter motors ?
STARTER MOTORS ????
Do I hear sombody asking about Starter Motors
Oh no, not again.
I have had enough of starter motors
Basmaf

Date: Tue Feb  4 07:05:19 2003
Name: barry
Email: barry.mayle@btinternet.com
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)

hi nik
you say tou got spares for your cbx 550 f2 would you have a spare starter motor .
rep barry
barry.mayle@btinternet.com

Date: Tue Feb  4 07:03:21 2003
Name: barry
Email: barry.mayle@btinternet.com
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
hi
in need of starter motor for my 550 f2 can any body help me .

Date: Tue Feb  4 04:47:30 2003
Name: Andy
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
Can anyone tell me the correct firing order for the CBX550F2, I have just replaced engine and I am having problems getting it running.

Had one the year they came out and I was much younger, Sucked me in again, really want it on the road now!

Thanks in anticipation
Cheers you
Andy

Date: Mon Feb  3 16:00:28 2003
Name: Harry
Rob

Distant sea gaze, set jaw, salt-encrusted beard and the obligate anorak - there you have your jolly scandinav! - and thats nothing, you should try to see the blokes!! Nope, seriously, your stereotype blonde lovely has long fled to the warmer climes populated by olive skinned macho men, leaving 99 perecent of the Danish population as mouse-coloured pale copies (cept us with CBXes of course!) Swedes, on the other hand, thats something else, they are all blond and blue eyed and beautiful - pick me up on the way over and I will join you - the temperature will soon be up to about 5 degrees C so most Swedish girls will be in their bikinis soon!

re: Rich running - I would run the motor warm and check plug colour after a quick blast, then adjust the carburettor according to the manual (Hi Basmaf, I am still copying!!)before finally adjusting the idle. Which plugs are you running?

BTW the Honda SOHC technical board is absolutley fantastic, see their articles about carburettion.

Date: Sun Feb  2 20:47:59 2003
Name: Rob
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
hi Harry

Have just been trying this trick of yours. Not sure if i am doing it right?
Started the bike on choke, revs rise. On trying to adjust the idle screw it does not affect the revs.
Am i adjusting the correct thing? the large knurled knob bottom middle of the bank.
Sure enough, as soon as i take the choke off, the idle can be altered.
Any more advice on this would be welcome.
My F2 has never had any problems starting, seems to run a little erratic at idle. But as i have said in the past i do think it is a bit on the rich side.
I know you'll all say if it aint broke dont fix it. But it would be nice to improve it!

Rob

Date: Sat Feb  1 11:12:24 2003
Name: Rob
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
Harry.
fantastic idea!! It took me all of four hours,five cans of stella and a funny fag to work it out. But it finally sank in. I will have to give this one a go as soon as possible.

By the way Harry,nice to hear about your cold weather. Eastern England just had a few inches of snow and the country has ground to a halt. The army are out helping stranded motorists.And its all headline news!!

Dont you just love England!!

Rob.

P.S. By the way, im still not/never have/never will be goggled....i like it nice and open!
And you still have'nt told us about the blonde scandinavian girls!!

Date: Sat Feb  1 08:02:04 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
Type: CBX 550F
Got home after work, bit fresh (minus 10 or so)parked MZ and popped in to shed to crank CBX - dead. Curse. Tank off, plugs out - wet - curse - hey wait...I have the old plugs on the shelf NGK DR8ES-L, now I think of it, they are recommended for winter! Pop them in, stab starter button and VROOOOM, lovely sonorous sound, 30 seconds later choke off and she settles to a steady tickover at 1100rpm so steady you would have thought the needle had been painted on - I swear my trusty MZ looked jealous (starts first kick EVERY day, BTW)Case closed, time for a beer!

Date: Sat Feb  1 08:00:56 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
Type: CBX 550F
Got home after work, bit fresh (minus 10 or so)parked MZ and popped in to shed to crank CBX - dead. Curse. Tank off, plugs out - wet - curse - hey wait...I have the old plugs on the shelf NGK DR8ES-L, now I think of it, they are recommended for winter! Pop them in, stab starter button and VROOOOM, lovely sonorous sound, 30 seconds later choke off and she settles to a steady tickover at 1100rpm so steady you would have thought the needle had been painted on - I swear my trusty MZ looked jealous (starts first kick EVERY day, BTW)Case closed, time for a beer!

Date: Fri Jan 31 21:20:26 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
Type: CBX 550F
OK, here goes (plug fouling): "The choke is not a choke (air restriction) its an enricher jet control (more fuel), hence it runs the engine rich (carbons up plugs etc.) and uses more fuel. If you run the cold starting device for long enough, the plugs will foul, the carbs will maybe overflow and the engine will flood and stall at idle. Make sure the choke is off (check at the carb, not the bar lever).......are you sure your choke goes completely off? With the "choke" circuit on these carbs, it usually runs really bad with a partially-on choke. I've seen the choke cable get hung up halfway, which leads to no running/stalling/no idle with choke seemingly "off" but will run fine but horribly rich with it full-on."

Right, said I - and checked the choke cable at the carb and sure enough, I had fitted the choke cable incorrectly so it was part engaged!!! And then this:

"Imagine setting up the bike with the choke on full. You get the idle at 1100 rpm by moving the idle screw in or out so the air and fuel match up and burn. You then move the choke to the normal run position, the engine will stall. However, run until the engine is hot and then move the choke lever. The engine is so hot, it'll burn pretty much anything, lean, rich whatever at least for a time and with the right throttle setting."

And there, I believe, is the solution to my problems. Cable adjusted, plugs cleaned - will give her a run tonite (-15 degrees forcast) to clear her up and see how she goes. And from now on I need to be more sparing with the choke.


Date: Thu Jan 30 23:23:42 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
Type: CBX 550F
I say, Goggled chums!

Cold-start flooding and plug fouling - would this be a quirk of CBXs? From about 5 plus degrees C to about minus 10 degrees C I have noticed a tendency toward plugs (new) fouling quickly, if I dont have choke set just right (...and even then!). If I run rthe motor for a few minutes and switch it off without it having run warm, I am guaranteed fouled plugs next startup. Runs very rough on choke, sometimes cylinder three chimes in, sometimes not, smokes quite a bit (white smoke) odd backfire or two and not too keen to settle to idle when off-choke and half-warm (swings from 900 to 3000rpm). I just fitted new battery, nevertheless: switching on the lights kills the motor at idle.

Seems a few of the german goggled chums have had the same problem, according to their forum. So, what to do - any ideas / insider "cold-starting tips for arctic owners"? Like, I have started to switch fuel tap to "off" a couple of hundred metres from home so that fuel levels in carb are not too high when starting. But maybe I should close off say 30 m from home, just lowering the fuel level slightly, and start next day with closed fuel tap, only opening when motor actually starts - maybe I can stop plug fouling that way? Any comments?

Harry

Date: Thu Jan 30 07:20:59 2003
Name: dave
Norman
apart from the usual mail order/ebay give this site a dose of looking at , its very impressive.
good luck Dave
http://www.teamrc17.net/

Date: Thu Jan 30 03:34:48 2003
Name: Norman
Email: dewet@idws.co.za
Type: Other CBX
Would anyone know where I could get a 1984 cbx750f manual.

Date: Wed Jan 29 21:44:53 2003
Name: dave
gord
If you can find a decent tank that would be the best bet, but failing that have you considered a diy sealing kit? that would cost about thirty quid , but they're really effective done correctly , I can post instructions if you need help ( stop moaning at the back I'll try and keep it short !)
rob
was you asking me about weekend availability ?for those among us who know the meaning of " browny points " I'm working towards a slight credit at the moment ( the price we pay for love ) ps for love I mean bikes !
Dave

Date: Wed Jan 29 18:27:04 2003
Name: Harry
..make that: www.cbx550.de , not bbx550!

Date: Wed Jan 29 18:25:10 2003
Name: Harry
AAh- look what I just found at www.bbx550.de:

".... auf 34 PS drosseln . Dabei werden in die Ansauggummis Bleckscheiben mit einem kleinerem Loch eingebaut. Danach muwieder die Vergaserabstimmung erprt werden und der ganze Sch. beim Tuv eingetragen werden. Der Drosselsatz kostet ca. 150 Euro ( inkl. Einbau ?) und dann kommen noch die Gebren f T und Kfz.- Stelle dazu."

Sooo, it looks like I have a restricted machine, where the restriction was added after market by cutting open the airbox, adding the restriction, closing it again and adding the mod to the TuV documentation. And until today I thought that my airbox had cracked due to vibration, but I couldnt quite understand whay the crack was so round and neat! Geez, I love this internet stuff!


Date: Wed Jan 29 17:58:49 2003
Name: 
Email: Harry Teicher
Mystery time - settle back and pour up a glass of whiskey...

Normally the CBX550 has about 60HP, in Germany it can be bought in a 50HP version, with different camshaft. Now, in the original german documentation for my 550, it says 34HP - while in the danish documentation sent to the registration authorities it says 50 HP. Looking at my airfilter holder, it seems to have been cut open around the carb fitting, and joined up again with black silicone. Question: was the 34HP reduction achieved, like the 50HP reduction, using a different cam, or was there a subsequent restriction from 50HP by modifiying the airfilterbox - a restriction which was later removed by some deviant, forcing the danish dealer to truthfully write 55HP to avoid trouble from the authorities?

Date: Wed Jan 29 12:39:53 2003
Name: Gord Bain
Email: baysend@shaw.ca
Type: CBX 550F
I am trying to locate a tank for my CBX 550 as mine has heavy internal rust and several leaks.

Thanks for your Help.

Date: Wed Jan 29 10:43:24 2003
Name: Rob
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
Just a quick one for you all.
Two cbx's on e-bay. One at 82.00-eighty two quid so far and no t&t and needs cam chain.
And an F2 at 156.00-One hundred and fifty six so far,looks a bit better than first but sounds like non-runner.

Rob

Date: Wed Jan 29 08:37:19 2003
Name: rob
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
hi all

cheers all for the tips. seem to remember trying the longer screw/thread one before. i will give the quick and easy ones a go first. If these fail i will end up buying a helicoil kit. but being a skinflint means it will be a last resort! and besides i dont think the idea of me a drill and exposed motorcycle parts mix too well!

Oh dear I think Harry has finally cracked. Must be all those scandinavian blondes. I dont know about you, but i dont have any goggled chums! And as for those acrobatic interludes!......mmmmmmmm....acrobatic scandinavian blondes....can i come and visit Harry?

Nic, here is my biased view!!
Dont use it as a commuter bike, buy a cheap scooter/bike for that.

Sell it for parts? OK I will buy it for fifty quid!

Price in its present condition? How does fifty quid sound!

Mechanics in your area? Its your lucky day, me and Dave live in the southwest, we both drink scrumpy and fix bikes in our spare time and only charge two hundred quid an hour plus drink. A bargain if i say so myself!

Rob

PS. Dave, doing anything the next few weekends? I might have some work lined up!

PPS. Nic, what do YOU want to do with it..........?


Date: Wed Jan 29 00:32:07 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
Gentlemen - a poem (I have no idea who wrote it) extolling the virtues of what must be a CBX rider:

Oh damsel fair, beware the car Where seating space is wider far Than any man of reason needs Except to further his misdeeds. The steering column change eschew No good can come of it for you- And likewise any motor shun From which you can't bale out and run. Let maiden modesty decide To take a summer evening ride On Something of the cycle breed For virtue's friend was ever speed No vulpine sibilance can come From guileless lips of goggled chum. With passion he is never dizzy (his motor keeps him far too busy) And even dual seats preclude The acrobatic interlude.

Date: Mon Jan 27 22:05:40 2003
Name: Nic
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
I live in the UK, South West, and have a CBX550 F2 which has been off the road for 3yrs now, in dry storage. Its a shame to leave it and Im now trying to decide whether to get it fixed to use as a commuter or to sell for parts (of which it has many good ones). I cant repair it myself as I have very little mechanical knowledge. Id like to know, if anyone can help -
What could I ask for a used bike that is not running but in good condition asthetically with many parts. and could I advertise it here - anyone interested in possible purchase?
Can anyone recommend a good mechanic in the South West that knows CBX's inside out that could bring one back to its former glory?

Thanks

Nic.

Date: Mon Jan 27 22:01:33 2003
Name: dave
harry
your not wrong ! a quarter whitworth high tensile bolt will invariably tap itself into a stripped six milly ( but even I have standards (well I'd like to have)
dave

Date: Mon Jan 27 19:32:58 2003
Name: Harry Teicher
re: rocking rocker cover - why stay metric? Would it be possible to cut a marginally larger nonmetric thread into the stripped hole, thereby alleviating the need to drill up from say 6mm to 8mm? I imagine there would be a non-metric size threadcutter which would fit snugly enough to make a useable thread? Certainly a quick-and-easy solution compared to the dreaded Helicoil!

Harry

Date: Mon Jan 27 08:09:59 2003
Name: Kevin
Dave thanks for that. A good fall back option.


Date: Mon Jan 27 05:20:52 2003
Name: dave
Kevin
from what I've read I seem to be the only one who " pumps "his forks up , so if you cant get hold of the pipe simply block the holes up and if you need stiffer forks fit spacers on top of the springs
Dave

Date: Mon Jan 27 05:05:45 2003
Name: Kevin
Type: CBX 550F
Hi all

Well I got the bike home. It doesn't seem too bad but I haven't had a chance to really go to town on it yet.

One thing I definately need - perhaps someone can help? I need the pipe that joins together the two fork tops, plus 1 or better 2 of the union joints that go into the fork top caps.

Can anyone help or suggest ??

Kevin

Date: Mon Jan 27 05:02:24 2003
Name: dave
Type: CBX 400K
rob
the helicoil fix would be the best as you could still use the original bolt , provided you can get directly above the hole with your drill and grease the bit to collect any swarf there shouldnt be a problem doing it insitu, alternatively here are some quick fix ideas ( the faint hearted should now cover their ears )usualy when you strip a thread like yours theres still some " meat " at the bottom of the drilling so if you where to get a longer , is it six mill ? bolt say twenty mill longer and screw a nut up to the head of the bolt and then a large washer ,then use some stud lock and screw the bolt till it " bottoms out "give the stud lock time then screw down the nut and washer onto the cover, you could also put some silicon seal on the rubber joint. One of my cbxs previous owners had retapped one of the holes eight mill ( I wondered if theres enough metal for a helicoil ) which fixed it.
Dave

Date: Sun Jan 26 12:31:27 2003
Name: Rob
Type: CBX 550F2 (Integra)
Nearly forgot my latest problem!
Last time i had the rocker cover off i managed to strip one of the threads that secure it.
Anyone have any cheap/simple ideas to solve my minor oil leak?
Will get a helicoil kit if i have to, but hate drilling around the head. Especially as i wont take it off to do it, being the lazy sod that i am.

rob

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